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The bad news is that "Untouchables" isn't a less commercial record than issues, neither is it less overproduced. John Davis' singing approach is increasingly whiny, and the songs are often written to the same template that korn have been using since "Follow the Leader". This is definitely ... Read review
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Advantages: Probably their Best album since the first Disadvantages: Some very questionable moments
Korn's 4th album, "Issues" could not really be said to be anything other than average, it had a couple of good moments, but ultimately it was a rather shoddy affair, and generally disappointing. It seemed fair to assume that Korn's descent into commercial mtv-metal could not be stopped, and that their sound was gradually becoming watered down by formulaic song writing and uninspired, whiny vocals.
The bad news is that "Untouchables" ... ...less overproduced. John Davis' singing approach is increasingly whiny, and the songs are often written to the same template that korn have been using since "Follow the Leader". This is definitely not "like the first album", nor is it the perfect "masterpiece" which Korn have dubbed it.
However, I can't help finding myself liking it.
What Korn have achieved in this album, which they failed ... more
Korn's 4th album, "Issues" could not really be said to be anything other than average, it had a couple of good moments, but ultimately it was a rather shoddy affair, and generally disappointing. It seemed fair to assume that Korn's descent into commercial mtv-metal could not be stopped, and that their sound was gradually becoming watered down by formulaic song writing and uninspired, whiny vocals.
The bad news is that "Untouchables" isn't a less commercial record than issues, neither is it less overproduced. John Davis' singing approach is increasingly whiny, and the songs are often written to the same template that korn have been using since "Follow the Leader". This is definitely not "like the first album", nor is it the perfect "masterpiece" which Korn have dubbed it.
However, I can't help finding myself liking it.
What Korn have achieved in this album, which they failed to in Issues, is to further commercialise their sound, but without simply writing terrible songs. Sure, every single song on this album is super-accessible, with choruses and catchy hooks that all the little kids will obviously love, but these are not the relatively lifeless songs of Issues. It really seems that (for the most part), John davis has put a lot of thought into his melodies, and the songs are performed with an energy which was not always present on the last album.
The music itself is very diverse. In a recent interview "Head" (one of the guitarists in the band) admitted that the songs "are pretty simple stuff", and at times this is certainly true. Some of the riffs in songs like "Blame" and "Embrace" could have been written by any nu-metal band, or indeed any guitarist who had learnt for more than a day, but I have to admit that sometimes simplicity is effective, if not overdone. Even this occasional banality is usually overridden by John Davis' vocals, which are truly inventive, considering how little he has to work with at times.
The vocal melodies on this album are extremely strong, if rather different from what we are used to from Korn. Davis has previously declared his love for 80s pop, due to the amount of great melodies it has, and melody is certainly a strong focal point in "Untouchables"; we get very little of the mumbling or moaning that we might have found on "Korn" or "Life is Peachy" during the verses, and the choruses are always huge, dramatic and catchy. Davis also seems to have broken away to some degree from the restraints of being in a metal band and therefore having to sing "scary" tunes. "Hollow Life" is more 80s than typical Korn, and "Thoughtless" has a chorus which sounds almost positive - a first for korn (although i'm not sure if this is entirely welcome).
What's more, despite the amount of melody which has been crammed into every song, the album is at times "heavier". Korn traditionally promise before the release of another more poppy album that it is heavier, but with "Untouchables" they were telling the truth to some degree. The sound is hugely dense and booming, as is to be expected from an album that cost $3 million to produce, and the guitar sound is even more crunchy, low and thick than before. The fact that every member of the band's instrument is doused in a huge amount of effects, and the fact that they usually all play complementary different riffs makes it a hugely complex affair, and this is even without the stacks of backing vocals which come in every so often. At times (as in "Make believe") the texture is so thick that it is actually difficult to hear what is going on! The music of the album is also very gloomy and dark, perhaps caused slightly by Davis' state of mind. In earlier albums he has been angry at others, with plenty of insults hurled at all those that he sees have done him wrong. In "untouchables" the lyrics are much more introspective and despairing. Images such as those evoked on "here to stay" ("I bash my head into a mirror so I wont have to see the pain") are rather disturbing and hint more at violent self hatred than the rage at injustice Davis has felt before. The result is an album which is less angry than mournful and wildly despairing.
The album does sadly also have its bad points. It's stupid to have a problem with catchy music, but the chorus of "Hating" is dreadful; it is the first korn chorus ever to have clean guitars, and sounds like a lame ballad of the Nickelback, Creed or Linkin Park sort. The rest of the song is very good, which makes this forgivable, but also very annoying - you can't help wishing korn had just written a different chorus to this song. "One more time" suffers from the same bad songwriting in parts, only this time it is a terrible verse and fantastic chorus. The only truly bad song on the album is "Wake up hate". This is a pathetic attempt to be heavy, and just sounds like some rubbish industrial band. It is completely out of place on the album. The other bad point of the album is perhaps the lyrics. They are not dreadful, and at times can indicate how distressingly unhappy Davis is, but they are very bog standard korn lyrics, and often sound quite silly and cliched:
"I take this time/ to bury what's inside/'cause I will break/sometimes I wish you'd die." (Bottled Up Inside)
The lyrics are not great, but they're sufficient, and Korn lyrics have never been famous for being amazing (although the earlier albums have quite controversial and disturbing lyrics, this is more due to the swearing and their content than the force of the poetry).
In the end, it's the music that counts. With "Untouchables", Korn have managed to get out of the rut of "Issues", in fact, it is perhaps even better than "Follow the Leader", if not as good as the first album (which we must admit can never really be possible). Korn have ditched rap metal, have thankfully ditched the interludes of "Issues", and have embraced an extremely thick, satisfying (albeit commerial) sound. The accessibility and melodiousness makes it a much better place to start with Korn than "Issues" and it is essential for Korn fans; perhaps the best album since the first, despite a couple of dodgy moments.
Korn have always been an important band in metal/nu-metal. This album just confirms how superior they are to the other drones in the genre who are currently enjoying such fame on MTV despite a lack of song writing ability. I'll be happy to see this on the radio, because ultimately this is catchy, commercial, but very good music.
Advantages: Some incredible songs, alot of memories Disadvantages: Some songs that now seem boring to me, am I getting old?
...decided to listen to the untouchables album. Now some songs brought back memories of old school trips, school days etc both good and bad memories lol. And other songs just made me think why did I ever listen to this.
The cover itself is great I think, there is the traditional parental advisory sticker that no one takes any notice of, I've seen kids who look about 12 walk up and buy Eminem/Disturbed, even cradle of Filth lol. The untouchables cover ... ...also the way they've written UNTOUCHABLES over the top of the cover was really cool I thought, it almost looked like someone had scratched it into the case.
Tracks: (I will be using a point system out of ten for the songs according to what I thought of each track, Ten for excellent, one for terrible.)
Track 1- Here to stay.
Definitely one of my favourite Korn songs ever, second to such greats as twisted transistor or Word up. A very powerful song ...
vampiresthirst 15.05.2007
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Advantages: Good Old Korn, They Have Not Lost It Yet! Disadvantages: Singing Seems Different In A Way, Not Like Old Albums
Korn’s 5th album untouchables, released in June 2002 paved the way for a new type of Korn, one that has media hype, has their video played on MTV’s TRL ‘pop’ show, not good.
Their first single from the album was here to stay and it went to number 1 on the TRL charts and most people were loving it, the song was popular in the US and in the UK, from this song Korn were getting new fan’s, maybe ones that did not even like rock before, but this sadly ... ...to the albums ‘follow the leader’ and ‘life is peachy’ to shame of Korn. It is sad to see such a un-commercialised band become hyped by the public and media, but still I love this album and still love the band.
Tracks – My opinion of them.
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1. Here To Stay – First single off the album, one of their best songs as judged by the public… but it is good in my opinion, just a shame it was commercialised
2. Make Believe ...
kevinsmbuk 10.06.2004
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Advantages: More polished and mature sound, reminiscent of issues, Hype was believable and worth it. Disadvantages: It ends!
It's been nearly 3 years since we've seen or heard anything from Korn, the band that were obviously the major influences of the many nu bands there are around today.
Although many have attempted to copy Korn, none have succeeded and no one has lived up to the standards that they have set.
Just when we least expected it Korn came crashing back in late May 2002 with frequent news on the new album 'Untouchables' and a new Single 'Here to stay' which ... ...many were frantically trying to download the tracks, many finding they were stumbling across songs that were obviously fake. The hype for this album was enormous and now the album has finally received it's release it's not hard to see why. Korn have returned with yet another in your face, emotional roller coaster album that will leave you wanting to put the CD on repeat and leave it running all day whilst you busy yourself with anything you have ...
thegamecb 14.06.2002
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Advantages: Some of the tracks on this album are quite strong. Disadvantages: Much of this 'Untouchables' release is massively disappointing.
Released in 2002, 'Untouchables' is the fifth album from the Californian metal mob that is Korn. In the early days the bands music had always very much taken a nu-metal approach, in 1999 the music took a more alternative metal direction with the 'Issues' album however and this is a sound that was continued with this 'Untouchables' release. The album comprises of fourteen tracks and clocks in at just over the hour mark. It's not a particularly exciting album of music, much of 'Untouchables' is in fact quite poor and there is very little of interest to take from this release.
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Product details
Title
Untouchables [PA]
Performer
Korn
Genre
Heavy Metal
Sub Genre
Rap Metal
Release Date
17/05/2004
Recomended Retail Price
8.99 GBP
Original Release Year
2002
Label / Distributor
Immortal / Sony Music/Arvato Services
Engineer
Frank Flipetti
Producer
Michael Beinhorn
Pieces in Set
1
Studio / Live
Studio
Stereo
Stereo
Format
Performer
EAN
5099750177020
Catalogue Number
5017702
Additional notes
Album Notes
This is an Enhanced CD, which contains both regular audio tracks and multimedia computer files. Korn: Jonathan Davis (vocals); James Shaffer, Brian "Head" Welch (guitar); Fieldy (bass); David Silveria (drums). Recorded at Conway Studio, Hollywood, California and The Village, Los Angeles, California. "Here To Stay" won the 2003 Grammy Award for Best Metal Performance. After THE UNTOUCHABLES, Korn can never again be accused of sounding like Limp Bizkit. Though in the past, they've often been lumped in with the likes of the Biz due to their penchant for mixing hip-hop and heavy metal, UNTOUCHABLES represents a step forward. Part of the reason may be the involvement of producer Michael Bienhorn, who old-timers will recall as a founding member of early-'80s avant rock/funk/jazz outfit Material. Whether its Bienhorn's influence or just the band's desire to progress (we're betting on a combo of both), the songs here are full of carefully delineated and sung melodies (though Jonathan Davis's sore throat from hell won't bring Frank Sinatra to mind any time soon). The attack of the guitars and drums is just as unrelenting as before, but the expanded song structures and grooves (somebody's been listening to early Killing Joke) will put the lie to all the naysayers who consigned these guys to the nu-metal scrapheap in the past.
Album Reviews
Rolling Stone (7/25/02, p.72) - 3 stars out of 5 - "...Simultaneously lighter and heavier...producer Michael Beinhorn helps Korn's vicious rhythm section pound harder while expanding the band's higher frequencies...Staying sober has enabled Davis to achieve subtleties far beyond his death-metal belch..." Q (8/02, p.126) - 4 stars out of 5 - "...Melodic without losing any of their splenetic power, this is Korn at their most accessible..." NME (6/8/02, p.32) - 8 out of 10 - "...A return to former golories...it's good to know Korn can still rock like Armageddon....Korn blows the opposition to atoms." Alternative Press (7/02, p.75) - 8 out of 10 - "...Their darkest, most impenetrable record yet....a mammoth, labyrinthine record..." CMJ (7/1/02, p.16) - "...Korn continues to dominate the genre it spawned and, as always, we will continue to follow the leader."
Titles on disc 1
1.
Here To Stay
2.
Make Believe
3.
Blame
4.
Hollow Life
5.
Bottled Up Inside
6.
Thoughtless
7.
Hating
8.
One More Time
9.
Alone I Break
10.
Embrace
11.
Beat It Upright
12.
Wake Up Hate
13.
I'm Hiding
14.
No One's There
15.
Here To Stay (T-Ray's mix/CD)
16.
Here To Stay (video/CD)
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